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Post by ibindere on Oct 12, 2011 9:57:14 GMT -5
For those of us who are complete anoraks and trainspotters, here is a thread for discussing errors/anomalies/continuity issues etc.
I’ll start us off with a few (these were all raised on the old forum, so apologies for the duplication, but I just wanted to have a place here on the new forum for bloopers, cos I find them fascinating!)
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Post by ibindere on Oct 12, 2011 9:58:53 GMT -5
In series one, Gary and Phoebe are sitting in the graveyard and Phoebe says she got a letter from Donald but there was nothing in it. Gary says "because of the censor you mean?" which clearly shows he knows all about how letters used to pass through the censor.
But in a much later series upstairs at the royal oak phoebe hands a letter from Donald to Gary and when he reads it out loud he gets to a censored bit and says "blank" with a quizzical look on his face and phoebe has to explain to him about the censor.
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Post by ibindere on Oct 12, 2011 10:00:17 GMT -5
In one of the later series, Yvonne suggests to Gary that he buys a mobile phone so that she can call him whenever she likes when he's away at his "collector's fairs". Gary resists the idea, for obvious reasons.
But in a much earlier series, when he gets arrested by the present day "Reg" for getting into his car whilst drunk, he calls Yvonne on his mobile to tell her.
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Post by ibindere on Oct 12, 2011 10:00:51 GMT -5
How come, in the later series, a brick wall went up in ducketts passage in the forties? This doesn’t make sense, because if the brick wall went up in the forties how come it wasn't there in 1993 ?
They could mess about with ducketts as much as they liked in the present day (which they did, by introducing ducketts plaza and the shop etc) but you can’t put a wall up in the forties can you? Cos it wasn’t there in 1993!
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Post by ibindere on Oct 12, 2011 10:01:18 GMT -5
In "I Get Along Without You Very Well" Gary returns home to Yvonne (supposedly from the football match in Lithuania) and Yvonne promptly leaves the house. Whereupon, Gary immediately starts flicking through the telephone directory so that he can find the address of Phoebe in the present day. As he flicks through it, he's mumbling to himself "Sparrow.... Sparrow..... F Sparrow". Since when was Phoebe spelt with an F ?!!!
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Post by ibindere on Oct 12, 2011 10:02:03 GMT -5
For Gary to go back to 1888, he had to go through the portal in the "wrong" direction from the 1940's, ie. he had to go through the portal twice - the first time took him from the present day to the 1940's, and then the second time took him from the 1940's to the 1880's.
So when he went back through the portal from the 1880's surely he should have found himself in the 1940's? And then he'd have to walk round and go through it again to get to the present day.
But when he and jack the ripper went through the portal from the 1880's they went straight to the backyard of blitz & pieces in the present day.
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Post by ibindere on Oct 12, 2011 10:02:23 GMT -5
In the 1940’s Gary has an incredible music talent; he is an accomplished pianist and singer, and is able to perform a great many songs perfectly - like a human juke-box. However, in the present day he has no association with music at all. We know he likes listening to the blues, but apart from that there’s no musical interest at all. He has no piano and we never see him learning songs or practicing them. In fact the only time he’s ever seen with an instrument in the present day is when he’s got the little keyboard down from the loft and is seen playing “superstition” by Stevie Wonder but it turns out he’s only miming!
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Post by jobsta on Oct 12, 2011 10:07:23 GMT -5
In "I Get Along Without You Very Well" Gary returns home to Yvonne (supposedly from the football match in Lithuania) and Yvonne promptly leaves the house. Whereupon, Gary immediately starts flicking through the telephone directory so that he can find the address of Phoebe in the present day. As he flicks through it, he's mumbling to himself "Sparrow.... Sparrow..... F Sparrow". Since when was Phoebe spelt with an F ?!!! I noticed that one the other day on a rewatch. I have seen Phoebe spent with an F before, but given that the credits clearly spell it with a PH it is a bit odd.
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Post by jrichard88 on Oct 12, 2011 12:04:37 GMT -5
In one of the later series, Yvonne suggests to Gary that he buys a mobile phone so that she can call him whenever she likes when he's away at his "collector's fairs". Gary resists the idea, for obvious reasons. But in a much earlier series, when he gets arrested by the present day "Reg" for getting into his car whilst drunk, he calls Yvonne on his mobile to tell her. I actually didn't catch this one before, but perhaps when Gary lost his job, they couldn't afford the service anymore? I seem to recall (here in Canada, anyway) mobile service being much more expensive in the mid-90s than it is now, and if they were living on a one-income household, it may have been one of those luxuries they had to cut out to survive. How come, in the later series, a brick wall went up in ducketts passage in the forties? This doesn’t make sense, because if the brick wall went up in the forties how come it wasn't there in 1993 ? They could mess about with ducketts as much as they liked in the present day (which they did, by introducing ducketts plaza and the shop etc) but you can’t put a wall up in the forties can you? Cos it wasn’t there in 1993! It's very well possible it went up at some point in the 40s but was torn down before the 90s. For what reason it would've been built, I'm not sure, but I don't consider it outside the realm of possibility. In "I Get Along Without You Very Well" Gary returns home to Yvonne (supposedly from the football match in Lithuania) and Yvonne promptly leaves the house. Whereupon, Gary immediately starts flicking through the telephone directory so that he can find the address of Phoebe in the present day. As he flicks through it, he's mumbling to himself "Sparrow.... Sparrow..... F Sparrow". Since when was Phoebe spelt with an F ?!!! This was shortly after he met Phoebe, and he was still getting to know her, so maybe there's a chance he thought she used the other spelling? It's kind of like the name Steven/Stephen, you don't really know until you ask For Gary to go back to 1888, he had to go through the portal in the "wrong" direction from the 1940's, ie. he had to go through the portal twice - the first time took him from the present day to the 1940's, and then the second time took him from the 1940's to the 1880's. So when he went back through the portal from the 1880's surely he should have found himself in the 1940's? And then he'd have to walk round and go through it again to get to the present day. But when he and jack the ripper went through the portal from the 1880's they went straight to the backyard of blitz & pieces in the present day. I think someone asked Terry this question on the old board, and he explained that all time portals leading forward in time lead to the present day. Or if you don't like that explanation, it could very well be possible that part of the "chase" lead Gary and The Ripper through the 1940s, and we just didn't see it. Either way I don't think it's that hard to explain. In the 1940’s Gary has an incredible music talent; he is an accomplished pianist and singer, and is able to perform a great many songs perfectly - like a human juke-box. However, in the present day he has no association with music at all. We know he likes listening to the blues, but apart from that there’s no musical interest at all. He has no piano and we never see him learning songs or practicing them. In fact the only time he’s ever seen with an instrument in the present day is when he’s got the little keyboard down from the loft and is seen playing “superstition” by Stevie Wonder but it turns out he’s only miming! Gary always struck me as one of those people who could learn a song by ear, and thus didn't need to practice very often. As far as his musical aspirations in the present, I seem to recall (although it's been a while since I've seen this episode, so I might be a little fuzzy on it), in the episode where Gary and Yvonne are trying to sell their house, they bring in a gay couple to look around, one of whom strikes up a conversation with Gary about his love of blues music. They put on one of his records and even talk about getting together to have a jam session. So it's definitely there, even if the writers didn't reference it very often.
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Post by ibindere on Oct 13, 2011 4:30:06 GMT -5
good points well made jrichard88 :-)
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Post by jrichard88 on Oct 13, 2011 21:35:41 GMT -5
Here's an interesting one, although it may simply be an oversight on my part. How/when did Gary get his driver's license back? He had it taken away during Series 2, and for quite some time afterwards, his only means of transportation was his bike. Then in the first episode of Series 6 (Mine's A Double), his "double" steals his car, which I don't believe was mentioned until this episode. As late as Series 5's "When Two Worlds Collide", he still hasn't been legally cleared to drive, as evidenced by Yvonne having to drive him back to the shop in that episode. So, this appears to have happened between Series 5 and 6. I'll admit my lack of familiarity with the British legal system, and how they handle license suspension and revocation. Is 4 years common? Or was this just a glaring oversight by the writers?
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Post by jobsta on Oct 13, 2011 22:29:19 GMT -5
Here's an interesting one, although it may simply be an oversight on my part. How/when did Gary get his driver's license back? He had it taken away during Series 2, and for quite some time afterwards, his only means of transportation was his bike. Then in the first episode of Series 6 (Mine's A Double), his "double" steals his car, which I don't believe was mentioned until this episode. As late as Series 5's "When Two Worlds Collide", he still hasn't been legally cleared to drive, as evidenced by Yvonne having to drive him back to the shop in that episode. So, this appears to have happened between Series 5 and 6. I'll admit my lack of familiarity with the British legal system, and how they handle license suspension and revocation. Is 4 years common? Or was this just a glaring oversight by the writers? I've always assumed that he got it back after 12 months. You wouldn't get much more then that on a first offence. Perhaps Yvonne was just being nice by offering to drive him back to the shop in series 5?
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Post by jrichard88 on Oct 13, 2011 23:06:36 GMT -5
Good point, jobsta. I assumed it was suspended long-term because of his bicycle being referenced during Series 3 and 4 (and perhaps at one point in 5, I can't remember), but it is possible he simply didn't get around to buying a new vehicle until Yvonne became successful.
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Post by karl on Oct 17, 2011 0:57:54 GMT -5
Here's a poser-In "The yanks are coming", how the hell did Gary get the Jeep parts (Including a gear box) from the 1940's to modern day Dunstable for Ron? ;D ;D
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Post by jobsta on Oct 17, 2011 4:51:07 GMT -5
Here's a poser-In "The yanks are coming", how the hell did Gary get the Jeep parts (Including a gear box) from the 1940's to modern day Dunstable for Ron? ;D ;D Gary seems to be able to take items on his person through the portal. That's how he stocks his shop. I'm assuming that if he was pushing a trolly it would go through also. So he probably took the items through one at a time into the back of his shop.
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Post by ibindere on Oct 17, 2011 7:25:17 GMT -5
I agree jobsta. I think he must have just brought the part through a few at a time, or on a trolly.
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Post by ibindere on Oct 17, 2011 7:27:36 GMT -5
Here's a classic continuity error;
When Reg enters the talent contest, Sydney Wix asks for his full name and he says "Reginald Horatio Deadman". Yet in a much later series, he says he has 11 middle names because he was named after a football team. And I dont think "Horatio" was one of them.
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Post by ibindere on Nov 1, 2011 7:04:02 GMT -5
In the episode “the ‘ouses in between” jack the ripper strikes two days in a row. But in reality jack the ripper never committed murders on consecutive nights. He murdered twice on the same evening, but not two days in a row.
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Post by kellimarie on Mar 14, 2012 14:13:48 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the number on the front door of Gary and Phoebe's west end apartment change quite a few times.
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Post by jrichard88 on Mar 15, 2012 1:20:51 GMT -5
That it did. I haven't went through the entire series start to finish in a few months now, so I might be foggy on the details, but there's a different number when they first buy it. I also think there's a discrepancy when Ron settles in there in the 90s.
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